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fyi that was a superslam

Posted by: jeffersonbclark on April 1, 2008 8:41 AM

Terryeo said:
"if you don't rub elbows with criminals, and you are less likely to be accused of criminality."

I suggest you leave the church of scientology as fast as you possibly can, then.

Posted by: jeffersonbclark on April 1, 2008 6:52 AM

Remember how in the crazy Tom Cruise video, he says that scientologists are the only ones that can help if they see an accident?

Well on February 10th, 2008 in Columbus, Ohio, during a peaceful protest by anonymous outside the scientology org there, a protester was struck by a faulty door of a passing city bus. He was taken to the hospital and was treated.

Afterwards, anonymous called the scientology org later that evening pretending to be a scientologist from another location. The lady on the phone laughs at and mocks the person that was injured, and makes other questionable remarks.

A "CHURCH". LAUGHS AT SOMEONE THAT GOT INJURED.

It is then that the caller pretends he was the person that got injured (the caller was not the person that was injured) and the lady on the phone backpedals HARD, trying to say how terrible it was and they tried to help but the police stopped them (they did not try and help, and the police did not stop them). And continues on to say that she sent a team of scientologists to the hospital to check up on him (they called the hospital and no visitors matching her description were at the hospital).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3yOMV6q5og
This video is the audio with 'lol internets' video behind it. Be sure to read the details about the video on the right side. Please note the footage partway of a guy getting hit by a bus (it is not gory) is NOT from the columbus ohio protest.

This "church" if they even morally deserve that classification should be ashamed of itself.

Posted by: jeffersonbclark on March 31, 2008 6:50 PM

I am curious as to the status of the spokesperson's response to the followup questions posed by the author, I forgot to mention that in my last comment.

Posted by: jeffersonbclark on March 27, 2008 7:42 PM

You should really look around the internet a little bit more on what others besides scientology have to say about scientology.

Because right now people are gaining a larger and larger understanding of scientology, and what it is and what it can do. And what they are finding out is not very pleasing.

Posted by: jeffersonbclark on March 27, 2008 7:37 PM

"It is not true that lawyers from any firm representing the Church have visited anyone. If anyone is suggesting otherwise, that is false."

Scientology officially adopts a policy of telling "acceptable truths" to non-scientologits, so you have to read that quote carefully, and ask proper followup questions to these spokespersons.

They have only denied that a LAWYER delivered notices. That means anyone representing a firm that represents scientology could have delivered the letter and DVD. It could have been a private investigator, or an intern, or even someone from scientology running errands for the lawfirm.

You'll find this sort of slippery answer to your questions repeatedly. Technically they are correct, if you don't dig or followup at all. It's when you start to dig past their facade that you see the rotting timbers, mold and slime that supports the foundation that the "church" was built on.

Never accept what they say at face value, because what they say is carefully constructed to mislead.

Posted by: jeffersonbclark on March 26, 2008 1:55 PM

I read on another website that scientology has a larger file on them than even Al Capone (notorious US mobster) does. That's certainly saying something right there. (foia.fbi.gov reading room)

narCONon

Narconon likes to flaunt a high success rate for it's drug rehabilitation front for scientology. This is all based off of a single non-peer-reviewed study done in Sweden in 1981 by one Peter Gerdman. Now this single study was done back in the early 1980s and was not peer reviewed before publication. The basic flaw in the study was that the statistics gathered were based on what scientologists running the narconon program told the person or people performing the study, there is no way to verify if they were telling the truth or not.

Scientology's facts about narconon all stem from this single non-peer-reviewed study. The lowest figure that has been published claims at least a 70% success rate.

Now let us look at the figures again, after the study became public in Sweden and was subjected to independent review.

61 individuals entered the programme, of whom
24 left during detoxification;
23 left during other stages;
14 completed the programme.
The overall completion rate was thus 23%.

That's not really 70%+ as claimed, amazing!

Furthermore:

77% of those who enrolled on the course quit before completing it.
50% of those who did complete it went back onto drugs afterwards (and another 14% somewhat mysteriously didn't know if they had or not).
54% of those interviewed afterwards who did not complete it went back onto drugs.
34% of enrollees said they had completed the programme and relapsed but claimed to be drug free at the moment.
6.6% of enrollees said they had stayed totally drug free for one year afterwards.

Narconon's literature plays down other programs by claiming they have success rates of 15% or lower. But even a quick investigation of their own study shows pretty clearly that they are doing worse than other programs (many of which are absolutely free to participate in), and that's if scientology's figures for their "competitors" is even accurate.

"narconon recidivism rate" is what led me to Dave Touretzky's website. His website has been successfully defended from lawsuit(s?) brought on by scientology. You can't win a libel/slander suit against someone if the information is true.

A large majority of people speaking out against scientology have years and years of court records and undeniable proof behind them. Scientology prefers to stick to calling critics names such as bigot, nazi, kkk, etc.

In this age of information, if you cannot back up your claims you have no right to be making them.

Anonymous is information. Scientology is lies and deception.

Posted by: jeffersonbclark on March 23, 2008 4:00 AM


 
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