This is a discussion me and the writer of this article had through email.What a scumbag magazine.
Dear Jeb,
Thank you so much for letting me know which famous people support the 9/11 conspiracy theory.I now know who WON'T be getting a penny of my money for the rest of eternity.Anyone who believes that the greatest power in the world with impeccable intelligence could pull of such a sloppy job are absolutely beyond ignorant.Conspiracy theories are like the bible, a bunch of fairy tales made up for people to amuse themselves and gain power.Get a real job, quit trying to be famous off of other people's deaths. Steve Bates
"Just because we characterize their beliefs does not necessarily mean we endorse them. Thanks for sharing your thoughts nonetheless." JREED
Your welcome, but be careful of who you "characterize" .The average people are tired of the PC bullshit that media like yours produces. Your magazine seems like nothing but a soapbox for bullies to thousands of people now.. thanks to myspace :) Take Care!
"Not sure I understand quite what you're saying. Myspace? Bullies?"
Keep this in mind. These people (theorists) DEEPLY hurt the real sufferers of 9/11 which are the families who lost people.The theorists are doing nothing but trying to gather fame and make money off of the pain of others.You portrayed these people as "hero's". So, when a few well known bands from NY and NJ found out about it (including my own) we made sure to let thousands of people know how disgusted we are by your magazine.You are BULLIES who pick on the families of the 9/11 victims just as much as the theorists themselves. I was given a copy of your magazine by a friend a couple of days ago.I had never heard of it. I'll give you credit for the covers , nice artwork. I assure you though, I'll never buy a copy. As a writer do yourself a favor and stick to Non-fiction. We aren't attacking and/or threatening you in any way. We're simply doing the same thing you are. We are expressing our opinions. The difference is that our opinion doesn't hurt other people.
"I'm sorry the piece reads that way to you. I must say though, I think it in no way endorses the belief that 9/11 was perpetrated by the government. (Nor would it, because I don't believe that.) Nor is it intended to suggest that Luke or any of his compadres are "hero's". As a matter of general principle though, I think it's usually best to write about people on their own terms and not turn narrative non-fiction into a clash of worldviews."
The only view I have of you is the one you made WORLD VIEW, literally. I'm sorry . If I were to write a racist song would you not see me as a racist ???? . So, if you truly don't believe in it the theory why don't you write a story based on the real victims and the effect this kind of media has on them?. If you want to write about things that cause controversy hit me up. I'll make you famous..lol. And I have to say kudos for being a man and writing back.
Steve-
Well, we call them "conspiracy nuts" in the headline. That sets a pretty strong tone, I'd say. But I understand there are different sensitivities at play here as well.
Will you do me a favor and send me a link (or links) to these myspace pages you mention?
Thanks, Jebediah
Jeb,
Well,the picture the story and the headline are all definitely very contradictory. People like me are just sick of hearing their ignorant protests and seeing mourners cry because of them. I'm sorry but we all know what our country is capable of and 9/11 is definitely not fitting.With a government that has Billions of dollars at their disposal surely they can do better than a bunch of idiots with commercial jets.
I can't send the links unfortunately though because their is always the "slander factor" although there really wasn't as much towards you as there was against the theorists. But I assure you if you make an article worthy of a regress in animosity we'll back off some. It's rough in the media industry , you are always walking on eggshells. Trust me, I know very well. BUT!!, there's not such thing as bad publicity right?.
I'm actually going to create an anti-9/11 theorist group and show up to their families funerals, weddings etc. bullhorn and video camera in tow and denounce their religion and/or non religion. Would that make me a hypocrite?. Wait, being a hypocrite only matters if you believe in religion.Then I can make websites and radio shows and all kinds of goodies.
So, what shall we call it?. OH!, I got it!. www.richfromourners.com
Steve
This is a discussion me and the writer of this article had through email.What a scumbag magazine.
Dear Jeb,
Thank you so much for letting me know which famous people support the 9/11 conspiracy theory.I now know who WON'T be getting a penny of my money for the rest of eternity.Anyone who believes that the greatest power in the world with impeccable intelligence could pull of such a sloppy job are absolutely beyond ignorant.Conspiracy theories are like the bible, a bunch of fairy tales made up for people to amuse themselves and gain power.Get a real job, quit trying to be famous off of other people's deaths. Steve Bates
"Just because we characterize their beliefs does not necessarily mean we endorse them. Thanks for sharing your thoughts nonetheless." JREED
Your welcome, but be careful of who you "characterize" .The average people are tired of the PC bullshit that media like yours produces. Your magazine seems like nothing but a soapbox for bullies to thousands of people now.. thanks to myspace :) Take Care!
"Not sure I understand quite what you're saying. Myspace? Bullies?"
Keep this in mind. These people (theorists) DEEPLY hurt the real sufferers of 9/11 which are the families who lost people.The theorists are doing nothing but trying to gather fame and make money off of the pain of others.You portrayed these people as "hero's". So, when a few well known bands from NY and NJ found out about it (including my own) we made sure to let thousands of people know how disgusted we are by your magazine.You are BULLIES who pick on the families of the 9/11 victims just as much as the theorists themselves. I was given a copy of your magazine by a friend a couple of days ago.I had never heard of it. I'll give you credit for the covers , nice artwork. I assure you though, I'll never buy a copy. As a writer do yourself a favor and stick to Non-fiction. We aren't attacking and/or threatening you in any way. We're simply doing the same thing you are. We are expressing our opinions. The difference is that our opinion doesn't hurt other people.
"I'm sorry the piece reads that way to you. I must say though, I think it in no way endorses the belief that 9/11 was perpetrated by the government. (Nor would it, because I don't believe that.) Nor is it intended to suggest that Luke or any of his compadres are "hero's". As a matter of general principle though, I think it's usually best to write about people on their own terms and not turn narrative non-fiction into a clash of worldviews."
The only view I have of you is the one you made WORLD VIEW, literally. I'm sorry . If I were to write a racist song would you not see me as a racist ???? . So, if you truly don't believe in it the theory why don't you write a story based on the real victims and the effect this kind of media has on them?. If you want to write about things that cause controversy hit me up. I'll make you famous..lol. And I have to say kudos for being a man and writing back.
Steve-
Well, we call them "conspiracy nuts" in the headline. That sets a pretty strong tone, I'd say. But I understand there are different sensitivities at play here as well.
Will you do me a favor and send me a link (or links) to these myspace pages you mention?
Thanks, Jebediah
Jeb,
Well,the picture the story and the headline are all definitely very contradictory. People like me are just sick of hearing their ignorant protests and seeing mourners cry because of them. I'm sorry but we all know what our country is capable of and 9/11 is definitely not fitting.With a government that has Billions of dollars at their disposal surely they can do better than a bunch of idiots with commercial jets.
I can't send the links unfortunately though because their is always the "slander factor" although there really wasn't as much towards you as there was against the theorists. But I assure you if you make an article worthy of a regress in animosity we'll back off some. It's rough in the media industry , you are always walking on eggshells. Trust me, I know very well. BUT!!, there's not such thing as bad publicity right?.
I'm actually going to create an anti-9/11 theorist group and show up to their families funerals, weddings etc. bullhorn and video camera in tow and denounce their religion and/or non religion. Would that make me a hypocrite?. Wait, being a hypocrite only matters if you believe in religion.Then I can make websites and radio shows and all kinds of goodies.
So, what shall we call it?. OH!, I got it!. www.richfromourners.com
Steve