Dawn Eden used to put out for any old rock star. Now she's saving it for the King

Here's hoping folks show up to protest her appearance: Dec. 7 at Borders Books and Music, Kips Bay Plaza, 576 Second Ave. (32nd St.), Manhattan. 7 p.m. How the Daily News lets her edit news stories at the paper when her views are so loopy is beside me. Not to mention the spectacle of her talking about masturbation and how horrible it is that gays are essentially recruited and not born. Amazing. 2006. And she has an important job at a big NYC newspaper. Shame Shame Shame! You know something's wrong when even The Post got rid of her. What's up with the News?

I too was appalled at the spectacle of someone talking about masturbation. After being asked about it in an interview. In 2006! We have got to pull a Jocelyn Elders on this chick and shut her down before she's allowed to express her opinion again! Dibs on the pitchfork and torch concession at Borders.

Since Ms. Eden is only expressing the opinion of practicing Catholics, are you suggesting that Catholics should not be permitted to work at the Daily News?

In a day and age when children are taught about homosexuality, masturbation and safe sex in junior high, why would you freak out that an adult is talking about personally abstaining and her religions views on masturbation? How jaded are liberal mainstream views?! This country needs more people that are willing to take the high road and stand up for their views and beliefs. If there were more women like her the necessity to vaccinate our daughters at age 13 against genital warts wouldn't be so necessary! I commend her for her strength.

I'm not shocked by Ms. Goldstein's admission that she masterbates, although I do find this sort of public airing of one's dirty laundry quite ill-bred. These days an admission such as this is nothing.

As a Catholic, however, I do find public discussion of what goes on in the confessional to be extremely bad form and quite disrespectful to the priest who heard one's confession. While the person confessing isn't bound by the same rules as the priest one confesses to, the Church does advise its members to keep these matters private.

She's making money -- and demanding adulation (she'll zap any and all critics on her blog -- only the ones who kiss her ass stay posted). If she was donating all proceeds from her book, I'd respect her more. But she's using her conversion to Catholicism as a source of income. Shame Shame Shame.

Actually I wouldn't respect her no matter what. She's hateful to those with views different from hers. And while her supporters say she should have a right to say what she wants, I note that what she says cause many people excruciating pain by perpetuating the flatly false assertion that gays choose to be gay. It gives millions of her ilk the right (in their small minds) to mistreat the gays.

Yes, a quick perusal of her "blog" does reveal a rather desperate and grasping person, doesn't it? I wouldn't want her talking to my girls, that's for sure. Besides, why should my girls be exposed to her sordid, filthy past? Remember D.A.R.E. and how drug use actually went up after these programs hit the schools? One wonders if her revelling in her pornographic past will have the same result. Sort of, "See, girls, I screwed everything I bumped into when I was young, but I got forgiveness for it later and now I'm fine!". When, of course, she's so obviously not fine.

Oh Tiki -- you're my daily affirmation! She has hers. I have Tiki. I have personally witnessed her deleting comments from her blog from those with whom she disagrees. She says its her right. It's her blog. But whatever happened to accepting that free-wheeling spirit of the Internet. I guess that went out when getting screwed did. But back to you Tiki. I agree. She's like, "I had my fun kids ... I did the drummers ... Now, don't get yours." When the truth is, she's like 40 and, Lord forgive me, has like Hillary ankles and probably couldn't even get the road crew now. Sheesh I'm cuntie ...

I did notice that she allows some very vulgar comments from men, but I guess she likes that sort of thing - if it's coming from men. She's very flirty and coy with them on the blog, but very dismissive and brusque with the women.

I haven't read her book, nor will I, but it seems odd that a book aimed at a female audience in their late twenties and thirties or so is being marketed like a Pam Anderson calendar. Seems like it's one more excuse to sex up the boys for some attention.

Oh, my - did you see that latest post? On the one hand, she sneers at women who didn't sleaze around, and on the other, she's trying to sell a book preaching that that's the goal women should have! How she does pride herself on the fact that she's worn outfits that show off her butt and how she's spread her legs (she allows men to use that comment on her own blog, and to direct it towards specific women, so I'm sure she won't mind if I use it here - so much for 'chastity', eh?) for more guys than Jenna Jameson! It's as if, now that she's been around the block more times than a wheel on Lance Armstrong's bicycle and isn't exactly any decent guy's dream date any more, she's selling her born-again virginity instead of her used up old body. Wouldn't a truly chaste woman stop harping on her slutty past? If you're Catholic, too, you're not supposed to keep dredging up sins you received forgiveness for in the confessional. But it's her stock-in-trade, I suppose. Dawn Eden, fucked by (D-list) rockstars, will now show you how you too can be a virgin all over again! Good grief!

If you're Catholic, too, you're not supposed to keep dredging up sins you received forgiveness for in the confessional. But it's her stock-in-trade, I suppose.

Perhaps she got the idea from Augustine's Confessions, or Dorothy Day or Graham Greene. Of course there are so many dredging Catholics throughout history, it's hard to determine exactly who influenced Dawn to be one too. (A good number of the other dredgers were paid too, which is probably why she decided she might as well be.) There is even talk of a chorus line of Catholics kicking up their heels and singing, "My sins have been forgiven." (Perhaps it'll be a hit and run on Broadway. kaching!)

Dorothy Day was familiar with the concept of humilty. Dawn Goldstein isn't even remotely acquainted with the notion.

Dorothy Day never teased the boys by promising she'd save her "blue material" for them at a later date...

Did you know Dawn Eden in high school, Tiki? Or are you just an antisemite? Usually people who don't call others by their professional or most familiar name are very prejudiced. Even though her personal family name is not something she hides, your calling Ms. Eden "Dawn Goldstein" evinces your hatred of her and disqualifies your objectivity and any influence of your thoughts on open-minded persons. Hmmm. I wonder if you are one of the folks who would support calling Muhammed Ali "Cassius Clay". Perhaps you insist on calling Bob Dylan "Bob Zimmerman?" Yes, perhaps you do.

My husband is Jewish. No, I'm not an anti-semite, and I am disgusted by you for intimating such a thing. Ms. Goldstein is her name, as she is quick to point out in this interview - or was she merely pointing that out for self-serving purposes? It's her name, and one has to wonder why she chose to discard it, er, "professionally".

Nice set of assumptions for someone who considers him/herself "open-minded".

As for stereotyping and loathing, it's quite interesting that the aging Ms. Goldstein, who is purportedly out to woo young women twenty years her junior and impress upon them the importance of remaining chaste until marriage, at the same time sneers at the "Susie Cheesecakes" of this world, who, in her opinion, are good for little more than providing the perfect jello-mold recipe. Last time I heard language like that was when Hillary Clinton sneered at the Susie Cheesecake set for staying home and having teas and baking cookies.

Seems like she's the one doing the stereotyping here. For the record, I wouldn't know how to make a jello mold if my life depended on it. Some of us were actually finishing college and pursuing advanced degrees while Ms. Goldstein was dropping out and pursuing anyone who would give her two seconds of attention.

On the one hand, she promotes chastity and virginity until marriage, and, on the other, she obviously doesn't think very highly of those who actually did that. That's a pretty mixed message to be sending to young women. It's really hard to tell what she thinks makes women more worthless -- sleeping around like a cheap ho, or being a wife and mother.

Tiki, did youactually read the interview? It was the interviewer who brought up Ms. Eden's name. She never mentioned it until she was questioned. And since you know that Ms. Eden prefers to go by that name, why do you find it so difficult to abide by her wishes? I am also amazed at your attitude towards sexually acative young women. Are you always so judgemental of them?

The previous poster requests we respect Goldstein's wishes to be called Eden; but why? She doesn't respect people's choices -- she fights against them. As do her supporters. So her choice is DENIED.

What does she have against her last name? Why does she prefer a name that makes her sound like a pornstar or a stripper? Why was she so quick to discard a name that is so very much a part of her identity - her real identity - the one God intended for her, not one of the ones she's chosen?

I don't think sexual activity before marriage is a good idea. I'm not judgmental, however, of sexually active young women in general. There is a difference between being sexually active and being a pig, and Ms. Goldstein crossed that line years ago. Also, her sexual activity has always been about bartering her body for something else she wants. Now that her body isn't worth much to the sort of person who goes for that type of thing, she's bartering stories of her sexual past for attention. It's the same thing.

So the concept of a pen name is new to you? Do you think Eric Blair hated his last name? Or Paul French hated his last name? It's amazing how disrespectful people can be just because someone expresses their opinion.

Isn't it, now...

tgpaul: Eden ain't a pen name. It's a form of self-adulation. She has the nerve to liken herself to the perfection that is God's garden. She chose it because she thinks her choices are better than others. Simple as that. I love how quick she and her peeps at her masturbatory blog are to scream anti-semitism (note she has banned more folks there -- calls them trolls (is that nice??)). But if you accuse them of intolerance or homophobia, they say that's not the case. They simply think they're right. See y'all at the Borders candelight vigil! The queer kiss-in in the book store should freak the wingnuts out. For sure.
Shame Shame Shame!

Here is the evidence of the cruelty and insanity of Goldschtein and her ilk: There is now a "guest blog" post on her site that makes the old argument that "well, if you let gay marriage, then you gotta legalize sex with animals." This is exactly what I'm talking. "Oh that's just my opinion ... You have to respect it," she and her ilk would say. Bullshit. Shame Shame Shame!

Dawn you banned me from your Blog. So I am going on here to say not only you are a fascist. You are a batshit crazy fascist. We are everywhere honey and we that is being the queer community and many of our fabulous straight friends will protest you no matter where you go. Since you banned me on your blog Dawn. I will say it here, you are a dedicated Swallower of Fascism and I bet the White House paid you money to write this book as well as the Catholic Church. Just like they did with your hero Maggie Gallagher. Actually you have a lot in common with Maggie Gallagher you both bear a resemblence to a heifer. Since you talk about cleaning up your backyard? I suggest that you should speak to your catholic priest about the little boys they fuck!

Dawn! Honey! Those pics of you are very unflattering. I know women in their 50's that are better looking then you. I guess If I looked that ugly too, I would be celebate. Oh BTW, I have alerted Bob Dylan's music publishers about your Parody of "Subterranean Homesick Blues" Expect a Cease and Desist order shortly.

Dawn! Honey! Those pics of you are very unflattering. I know women in their 50's that are better looking then you. I guess If I looked that ugly too, I would be celebate. Oh BTW, I have alerted Bob Dylan's music publishers about your Parody of "Subterranean Homesick Blues" Expect a Cease and Desist order shortly.

Hey Jay: Help gather up your friends for the queer kiss-in at Borders!
As for you being banned, her blog policy is all about civil discourse but there are some pretty uncivil comments on there from those supporting her wingnut views. Typical right wing silence-the-dissenters tactic. Shame Shame Shame!

And maybe the women who've managed to build rich, full lives that include marriage, family and personal interests or careers ought to show up and call her on her "buttoned-up, pasted-on-smile, perfect-jello-salad" comments. I really can't get over the fact that she's telling twenty-somethings that they ought not to dress like $2 crack whores and try to find fulfillment through cheap, meaningless hook-ups because doing so led to so much unhappiness and mental illness for her, but then goes on to make snide comments about the women who did exactly what she's preaching at them to do and claims that she's a better person for having sexed up the boys and gotten them to take her home for a soulless, heartless, meaningless physical encounter. I mean, which is it? She can't seem to make up her mind. And why would you feel superior to the women you're claiming had it right all along...? It's very strange. But then, money and attention are involved, so...I guess there aren't really any surprises there.

I know Dawn Eden Goldstein years ago. I used to see aroun WFMU and various shows. She was kooky, but I liked her. But I was also at a point where I was questioning my sexuality, so any thought of a pursuit was out of the question. It is really disappointing she aligns herself with the right-wingers are the world and I am not anti-christian. Which is why I respect the Jay Bakker's of the world who have reached out to the Gay Community even though myself remain agnostic. Yeah Maxmillian, Dawn proves herself as as fascist by banning me from her blog. I don't want to reveal names but a source at the NY Daily News tells me most people snicker behind her back and consider her a joke. I don't think she gets the blogs such as this article are making fun of her, but I guess when you have a book to promote, a person will act like a cheap whore she preaches against. Fucking Hypocrite!

I see her syncophants on her blog are calling us insignificant and meaningless. Hey Dawn, heres the weather report. The Democrats won both the house and congress. What does that mean? Americans are sick of Neo-Con losers like you and your ilk. You are irrelevant like your book. When all and is said done, I think it is safe to say that you are going to give pause for thought before writing another book. Don't get me wrong you are entitled to your opinion and I support your right to express an opinion, no matter how wacko it is. But with free speech comes repsonsibility which is being able to answer your critics. If you can't take the heat then get out of the kitchen.

I find a "queer kiss-in" counter productive. Isn't it a bit like Muslims threatening the life of the Pope for suggesting that they are violent?

While one can disagree with Dawn Eden (her middle name, actually), she is certainly within her rights (same as the usual "peaceful protesters" in Union Square) to follow her chosen religion and vocally disagree with a chosen lifestyle of someone else.

However, I'm sure if the kiss-in" does take place, you will all congratulate yourselves on how "clever" you were to think of such a thing. Boy, that'll really show her.......

Yes, dear. We're aware it's her middle name. I think you missed the point. No...wait...I know you missed the point.

And, yes, Ms. Goldstein is well within her rights to present herself as the most hypocritical, self-righteous loon as she wants. Just as other people have the right to call her on her hypocrisy and self-righteousness.

Perhaps if there were anything selfless or graceful about Ms. Goldstein, no one would care. Her narcissism and attention-whoring, however, have reached monumental proportions and merely make her look like a crazy, self-obsessed, pathetic, aging old groupie. Kind of like a less-fun-to-watch, uglier, dumpier Janice Dickinson.

Oh Snap! an uglier, dumpier Janice Dickinson. A self-righteous loon! Double Snap! Tiki and MaxmilianK ? You Rule

Dawn needs a serious dose of some Led Zeppelin and AC/DC to get her back into the groove.

You people have too much time on your hands.

And you don't...?

Let me see...what else could I do with my time? Oh, I know! I could make a lot of cheesey home videos in which I discuss what I wear in every season, and then remind people how often I used to drop trou for anyone with a dick and a guitar, lest they forget that, even though I'm chaste now, I used to be able to get laid all the time!

I admit it: I'm a hardcore syncophant.

But seriously, folks. I had read the posts on Dawn's blog before they were deleted, and they certainly weren't an attempt to engage in sincere discussion; just an extension of what's been said here, e.g., ugly crazy batshit fascist. Which is disappointing, because there's an opportunity here to educate.

I don't agree with a lot that was said in the interview, but I also don't sense the intentional cruelty so apparent in many of the responses. I understand the double-edged sword presented: if one is born gay, straights may see homosexuality as a "genetic defect" that can be cured, while if one chooses homosexuality of his or her own free will, that person is only exhibiting abberant behavior that can be "corrected." To me, homosexuality is in most people a combination of the two influences; while there's a huge genetic spectrum between feminine and masculine, I've also known those who suddenly "discovered" their gayness in college or beyond when the environment made it "cool" and relatively "easy" to be gay.

I'm not gay, but neither have I enjoyed a religious awakening of the sort Dawn has described, so I can't speak to that influence. I guess I'm just flummoxed by the intensity of the "hate speech" in response to Dawn's "hate speech." I'm "steeped in gayness" in my own life, so to speak, and I'm the one who's closeted myself among my friends as a conservative, because frankly I don't want to endanger friendships by trying to open a discussion of these issues. Is there any chance of that happening here?

OK, one more brief post for the hat trick. Just to clarify: when I speak of those I know who "chose" gayness, I'm speaking of at least three cases where the person had previously "chosen" heterosexual marriage, seemingly wholeheartedly. I remember once when both bewildered husband and "Honey, I'm gay" wife stopped by the house separately for impromptu "therapy" sessions. (On the other hand, I can't believe the guy in the next cubicle over apparently doesn't know he's gay.) In that context, I'm not sure the "fucking hypocrite" brand fits here. Lots of people change, and the fact that they didn't change in your preferred direction doesn’t make it hypocrisy. That said, what's the word on "delayed onset" homosexuality?

Gaydar! When you spout hate. Expect it back. Dawn should stop crying about the hate. It is not my problem she is incurring the wrath of people. Dawn is Columnist and her views about Gay People condone hate crimes against people. Sorry but I show no quarter for people like her.

And when you're so apallingly hypocritical as to be shamelessly hawking your book on how unfrickingbelievably chaste you are now, yet at the same time going out of your way to post years-old videos of yourself dressed in a cheap, sleazy outfit, gyrating and making a spectacle of yourself on a stage, then you get what you deserve. Dawn Eden Goldstein isn't even remotely familiar with either modesty or chastity. If she was really Catholic, she would know that, had she genuinely confessed her sins and sincerely wanted forgiveness, she wouldn't be taking out the evidence of those sins and pimping them around town in order to solicit cheap, sleazy flattery from the sad, creepy bunch of (obviously) unhappily married men and dreary old hags who frequent her blog. I'm sorry, but she's as full of shit as it gets. But she's certifiably mentally ill, so I suppose she can't help it. She's turned herself into a grotesque at this point.

Tiki and the gang: our work is done here, no? by the by, has anyone noticed no mainstream publications have written about her book -- not even her own paper. I leave things at that ... for now ... maybe.

I sincerely appreciate the reply, though I still don't buy the "condone hate crimes" bit. I understand the point, but I can't imagine anyone who isn't a gay hater at heart twisting Dawn's words into a reason to "turn" into a gay hater. The Fred Phelps crowd gets no love on her blog. And for what it's worth, I don't consider the New York Times (Dec. 10 edition) a mainstream publication either. Peace, lads...no hate here.

Hmmm...looks like not too many people showed up for her signing...and most of them were older people, not the twenty-something crowd she's wooing. They were probably there because they thought there would be free refreshments...