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Olbermann All Wet on Waterboarding



Keith Olbermann got a lot of attention for Monday night's "special comment" on waterboarding, in which he described the White House as "a criminal conspiracy to cover the ass of George W. Bush" and told the astonishing tale, first reported by ABC News last week, of former Department of Justice official Daniel Levin. Charged with rewriting the Administration's legal position on torture, Levin actually voluntarily underwent waterboarding in 2004 to better understand the procedure before assessing its legality. Here's what Olbermann said Levin concluded: "Waterboarding, he said, is torture. Legally it is torture. Practically it is torture. Ethically it is torture. And he wrote it down." Then he got fired, naturally.

It's stirring rhetoric from Olbermann, as usual—only it's almost certainly 100 percent not true!

According to the ABC News report Olbermann cited, Levin did not decide that waterboarding by the U.S. is torture; he just thought we were doing it wrong. "Levin, who refused to comment for this story, concluded waterboarding could be illegal torture unless performed in a highly limited way and with close supervision," wrote ABC News's Jan Crawford Greenburg and Ariane de Vogue (emphasis added). "And, sources told ABC News, he believed the Bush Administration had failed to offer clear guidelines for its use." In other words, the man whom Olbermann believes "should have a statue in his honor in Washington right now" for making a liar of Bush about torture apparently thinks that, in principle, waterboarding is perfectly legal.

Which makes him any different from Dick Cheney how, exactly?

Comments

Dear Idiot Box,

You are an Idiot.

Posted by: Clyde on November 7, 2007 7:34 PM

This was torture, Olbermann is totally correct. If you are going to spend your time splitting hairs about this I can certainly see why the US is the worldwide pariah that it is! We don't like you because you torture, among other things. (being warmongers comes to mind as an additional reason)

Posted by: balzar on November 7, 2007 9:48 PM

I agree with balzar. Levin believes he was tortured by American interrogators doing a routine, good old fashioned post 9-11 waterboarding, the way they were taught and the way it is now practiced by our country. I don't care if he said "waterboarding isn't torture as long as you're doing it right, but they didn't get it right with me" or something to that affect. In order for us to even begin to consider ourselves a civilized nation, we must have a clear line establishing what is and what isn't torture and for anyone with a brain and a conscience, waterboarding clearly is torture. Worse things have happened to our nation than 9-11 without our leaders considering stooping to the levels of Pol Pot and Josef Stalin. Thank God for men like Daniel Levin who have to the courage to put their selves on the line to investigate the practices that Bush and Co. say is acceptable and for men like Keith Olberman who are rightly pissed off and not afraid to tell it like it is.

And how is he different from Dick Cheney? By undergoing the waterboarding treatment Daniel Levin has proven himself to be a man of character and to have a real pair of balls. Five Deferment Dick Cheney would never subject himself to such treatment. He's a plus-size pantywaist.

Posted by: GoCheneyYourself on November 7, 2007 10:18 PM

Too bad the truth is only the truth when it conveniently suits others. Hooray for Olbermann and the fact that even though it was a bit scathing it is still OK to speak freely in the USA! At least so long as you don't have to first have it previewed and edited by the Bush administration that is!

Posted by: imsosure on November 7, 2007 10:44 PM

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I guess you are also calling John McClain a liar. McClain, being a prisoner of war, called waterboarding torture anyway you would look at it..

Posted by: Sporty on November 8, 2007 12:44 AM

hello! if you read, in it's entirety, the levin report he state that waterboarding done under the most controlled environments and by highly trained staff that it MAY NOT be torture but this IS UNLIKEY TO HAPPEN!!!! SOOOOO.......

Posted by: ladyli1 on November 8, 2007 2:08 AM

i agree with ladyli1, sporty, balzar, clyde and all the rest when they say that they would much rather have a dirty bomb detonate in downtown L.A. than "waterboard" a terrorist!

also, is there anything wrong with leaving out words, and using slander when you are right in your belief? It doesn't matter what you say about someone, as long as others agree with you.

leaving out words like "MAY" is langauge nitpicking! It's like saying "the airliner full of innocent people MAY crash into a building" is different than "the airline full of capitalist pigs and their children IS flying into a building" is different.

Posted by: prochoice on November 8, 2007 12:37 PM

You said "and all the rest when they say that they would much rather have a dirty bomb detonate in downtown L.A. than "waterboard" a terrorist! " - I'm busily searching through the comments to find this statement, I must have missed it. This is the USA we are a nation of laws constructed over 200 years ago by people obviously smarter then we all are. All the experts say torture including water boarding does not work. Those who say it does are all Republicans who have avoided personal military service but fancy themselves as experts in sending other people to war and death. Their only personal war experience is a bunch of terrific old fashioned sanitized John Wayne war movies. Grow Up. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself - what the 9/11 terrorists left undone Bush, Cheney, Rove and their Republican followers completed maybe more successfully then anything they've done in the last seven years.

Posted by: Clyde on November 8, 2007 8:37 PM


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