Have a sense of humor, everyone. Please. It's off-color at the very worst.

Get over it!

The is nothing about the comment that constitutes "making fun of rape."

He's talking about bees, for whomever's sake.

Do we have to walk on eggs around insect sexual abuse now?

What the fuck?! When did throwing a damn hissy fit over people not sharing your sense of "humor" not count as hyper-sensitivity? People laugh at what they consider to be true based on their assumptions. Opinions aren't fact so there's no need to be hysterical when someone doens't agree w/ your opinion (If this was truly just a joke, there wouldn't be such staunch interest one way or the other).

This is all the more glaring when posters on this site insist that rape is a trivial matter, hilarious, in fact (Rape--a weapon of war--is a joke, but people not laughing at what *you* find funny is a damn travesty.) When some asshat talks about the fear of walking on eggshells perhaps he should think of women that constantly have to regulate their behavior and wardrobe so as to make sure they're not blamed for "provoking" a rapist. But of course, the threat of rape is nothing compared to the plight of JDBishop 5 who has to worry about people who will...disagree w/ him! Someone call Amnesty International!

If homophobes made jokes about gay-bashing only homophobes would laugh. You only laugh at a rape joke, if you held assumptions that it's perfectly acceptable to rape, trivializing it into some sort of impolite sexual norm rather than a profound violation of basic human rights (If you can't exercise sovereignty over your very being, what rights do you have?).

Wait until Seinfeld's daughter gets a "little" raped. It'll be, at the very worst, "off color." Right, pmorain?

Hey! Markes!

He was talking about BEES.

And, if you walk down the street seminaked, you are contributing to the situation. That doesn't mean you "have it coming." It means you are an idiot if you don't think you have contributed to the situation.

Dude, I'm a dude. And I don't see prison in my future.

But in response to your idea that a woman contributes to the rape situation, it shows exactly why you so staunchly defend his lame-ass joke: you actually think women cause rape w/ their behavior or manner of dress (Rapists are the true victims!). According to that logic Afghanistan must be rape-free. What brilliance. Next you'll be telling gays that as long as they don't act "gay" around people they can avoid being bashed.

The joke is obviously not about bees but rape. He said there's nothing wrong with a little rape. He couldn't be clearer in trivializing (and, thus, justifying) rape itself. And since you will likely never be a target of a rapist, you think it's amusing, like, a chickenhawk who urges more warfare while he sits safely on the sidelines.

Hey! Markes!

He was talking about BEES.

And, if you walk down the street seminaked, you are contributing to the situation. That doesn't mean you "have it coming." It means you are an idiot if you don't think you have contributed to the situation.

Hey! Markes!

He was talking about BEES.

And, if you walk down the street seminaked, you are contributing to the situation. That doesn't mean you "have it coming." It means you are an idiot if you don't think you have contributed to the situation.

Totally blown out of proportion. As a woman, if I thought he was genuinely minimalizing rape, I would be outraged. However, I think this is a clear case of mouth running faster than your brain. Give him a break - who among us has not said something that came out badly? The difference is - no one is paying attention!

It seems one side is arguing that certain topics can't be joked about, even if in the context of absolute absurdism.

Just wanted to ask an honest question about the logic.

Should murder also be off our humor list? It's a pretty serious crime too. Does than mean that, oh I don't know, an absurd joke about an alien killing a superhero shouldn't be told because real murders sometimes happen in society?

Infidelity can have serious consequences in life too, breaking up families, possibly even passing a life-threatening STD. Should infidelity be off the joke list?

This is a very serious matter and I think Mr. Seinfeld should immediately check himself into a Bee Rape prevention rehab center. He probably should begin working on a one hour special on NBC to formally apologize to all rape victims and to memorialize all Bee rape victims everywhere. Our society will be scared forever because of this comment and Jerry Seinfeld should be condemned to make it right by spending the rest of his life working to rid our world of Bee-Rape victims.

who dis?

Jerry was out of line. The joke should have been, "...They have no crime. They have no drugs. They have no murder. Well, a little bit of murder..." Eeryone agrees there's no such thing as harmless murder, so it's obviously a joke. But unfortunately, some sicko's think rape is not so bad, and Jerry's joke supports that misguided thinking on both a conscious and subconscious level.

I suppose if you've been raped you won't like this joke. After all, murder victims never laugh at jokes about murder. I once played a room full of murder victims -- what a dead crowd. It was like doing stand-up in a morgue. Sure the act stank, but so did the audience. Thank god for the rim shots.

Wierd. It's too bad that the only thing Jerry gets press for anymore is a badly interpreted bee joke. This is totally making a mountain out of a molehill.

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infobob,
Neither I nor did the anti-rape activists petition to have rape jokes become illegal so this idea over what can or cannot be said is not relevant. People can legally tell any rape joke they damn well please, but people can also oppose them (That's the problem you seem to have: disagreement).
Rape is not like murder in that it universally singles out females (sexual overtones do not change the end result). For example, there's a difference b/w joking about beatings in general vs. gay bashing or domestic violence (which overwhelmingly targets females).
Informit,
Your inclusion of rape victims, not just bees, in your mockery proves exactly my point that he trivializes rape itself. One joke is not the point but whether the pubic legitimizes his trivialization. Obviously, it does. Apparently, it's impossible to trivialize rape since the public hardly considers it anything other than a joke anyway.

He did this joke last time he was on Conan. The joke is not about rape it's about bee society. Jerry begins trying to convince us that bee society is perfect because there is no crime, no drugs, no rape. But as it turns out there is rape so it's not perfect. But he's already gone this far to try to convince us how good bee society so rather than taking it back he quips "It's not so bad" to continue to support his argument. I never thought I'd have to dissect such an innnocent joke to defend it.

He did this joke last time he was on Conan. The joke is not about rape it's about bee society. Jerry begins trying to convince us that bee society is perfect because there is no crime, no drugs, no rape. But as it turns out there is rape so it's not perfect. But he's already gone this far to try to convince us how good bee society so rather than taking it back he quips "It's not so bad" to continue to support his argument. I never thought I'd have to dissect such an innnocent joke to defend it.

Tell a joke, folks go apis sh*t.

Rape can be funny!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3av_qRR_DWc

The only ones going apeshit are the ones who can't stand a difference of opinion. Again, opinion is not fact. And bitching about how people don't laugh at what you laugh at isn't winning you any points in railing against so-called sensitivity.
JDBishop, next you'll be telling me hilarious pedophilia is. Do post something from NAMBLA, won't you? They trivialize rape all the time, calling it "love" and whatnot.

Humor about pedophilia - that's a tall order.

I found this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS_WakLDBes&mode=related&search=

I guess you'd call it "Dark Humor."

Humor about pedophilia - that's a tall order.

I found this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS_WakLDBes&mode=related&search=

I guess you'd call it "Dark Humor."